I am against boycott
I have no doubt most Malaysians and Muslims around the world are agonized by Israel’s oppression against Palestinians but to expect our people to boycott the products and quit jobs with McDonald’s and Starbucks just don’t make sense.
I am seriously annoyed by the statement : We should boycott American goods or “any kind” of that. This is the one i got from multiple users of Yahoo! friends with the same message:
Coca cola, HuggiesRivel, Island, McDonalds, Clinique, Disney, Donna Karan, Starbucks, Gap, Garnier, Peerrier, Kotex, Sanex, Jo malone, Intel, IBM, Lancome, Libbys, Tchibo, Loreal, Marks & Spencer, Kleenex, Maybelline, Nestle, Vittel, revlon, Yahoo, Wonderbra & Tesco …Thats a list of brands found out to donate money to Isreal army. We need to stop buying from them in order to cripple the Isreali economy. It may seem like a small thing to do but its a start. Please pass on to show muslim unity.
Bonus question #1: Who owns Yahoo? – It is an American public corporation. American. What kind of medium you are sending on?.. err.Yahoo! Messenger ? Yahoo! ?
Bonus question #2: What computer are you using?. What is the processor contained in your computer which help to make your work efficient? What is the processor contained in your computer which let you watch and know that people of Gaza is suffering? – Intel and possibly IBM chips, the one listed on the boycott list.
Bonus question #3: What boycott with American goods can do with us? US and A is our major trading partner. Boycotting so called ‘US goods’ is like banging our heads against the wall or slapping our own faces or shooting ourselves in the foot. If you don’t take any of Economics classes, I dare to say just shut up your baseless boycott statement.
Bonus question #4: How about the thousands of Malaysian students sponsored by the government studying in the US? Are we going ask them to come back? How about the millions of Malaysian computers that run on Microsoft software? Your iPod? Sony MP3 player that carries IBM processor? Are we going to throw them away?
Again I dare to say, if there are Malaysian students here in America which do this boycott stuff – go back home now by land and sea, you rent a car like Borat did and travel through sea using your own-made boat. Because airplanes are made by Boeing, which is an American company too.
2 days ago, from AFP news :
“As everybody else, we are deeply touched by the human side of the situation in the Middle East,” Kadri Taib, Coca-Cola Malaysia public affairs and communications director, said in a statement.
“Given the local nature of our business, we believe that calls for boycotts of our products are not the appropriate way to further any causes, as they primarily hurt the local economy, local businesses and local citizens.”
It said the beverage company employs some 1,700 Malaysians, 60 percent of whom are Malay Muslims, who dominate the multicultural nation’s population.
60 % of 1700 = 1020 Muslims. Will other non-related to US and A companies hire them, will they provide jobs that fit with their personality to produce optimized output?
Grow up your mind like adult people. Not as parents.or child.
MaJa
on January 12th, 2009
aku x against org yg memboikot.. eventho aku x memboikot..
tapi aku rasa.. xde org boleh memboikot sampai bila2..
dari dulu pon da ada org semangat tinggi memboikot2 nie.. tp x pnah ada berjaya pon dr jangka panjangnya..
dan aku suka mcd.. starbucks.. pergi la mampos nak suruh aku berhenti apa yg aku suka..
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ladynas
on January 12th, 2009
Assalamualaikum..
you do have a point.. I am making a link to this particular page in my blog.. hope you don’t mind..
azrin
on January 12th, 2009
yeah.i agree..it’s not gonna help the muslims to boycott things..in Islam also, it is not our responsibility to know where are the money goes from our daily purchasing, investment n stuff. So, buying a $4 cup of latte at Starbucks is not wrong, whether or not the reach the hand of the Israeli armies. What the main point for muslim now is competing with those israelis, not boycotting, killing or devastating this mother earth..salam
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hafiz
on January 12th, 2009
i just cannot help myself from not doing anything when reading this post and these comments. first off, i wanna give a link to a website that i base my agreements on..
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-faq.html
try to read it till the end and understand the msg that they wanna deliver…
secondly…i just wanna express my disappointment to some people who are just totally ignorant..how can you say its not our responsibility to do this..and to do that? just think for a second..how would you feel..if you were born as a Palestinian and u r at their place right now…being bombarded with bombs everyday not knowing if tomorrow will be your last day to live…and people on the other side of the world..do not do anything about it…who’s gonna stop this war if its not us? i know..4 dollars doesnt seem much compared to millions of dollars funded to Israel…but imagine if each and everyone of 1.2 billion of muslims in this world starts boycotting Israel’s products..does that not exert any impact on their economy? come on people..is it really hard to stop using/consuming this products? are you gonna die if you do not drink starbucks anymore? i dont think so..but something that i know is…there will be more money to buy weapons to kill people if we do not do anything about it… watch these videos..even IF boycotting is not really effective on stopping this..do you not want to at least make it less worse by boycotting?
http://www.youtube.com/user/cnewq5
Poie
on January 12th, 2009
salam… peace be upon you, I’m not really blame you about this article and I see clearly the point that what you want to say about boycotting. In Islam, all Muslims are brothers, we know we have to put love between each Muslims as one of the qualities to complete our Iman. Boycotting is one of our effort towards condemning Israel, but not all the stuff we can and we need to boycott. For example, I feel so responsible to boycott Starbucks, because we know the fact from this link [ http://stillforever.blogspot.com/2006/08/parody-thankyou-to-all-starbucks.html ] (the fact is true, quoted from Israeli magazine) all the profits produced by them will be given to the Israeli army for their needs in military. Would you let this thing keeps happen? Would you let your brothers being killed and slaughtered and even worst you help them (Israeli army) financially. Boycotting? Not all stuffs, but some is enough and I believe the power to do one lead to the power to do more.
Haziq Ruzaini
on January 12th, 2009
i do read through all the websites that listed the products needed to be boycott to “cripple” the Israelian economy.. thanks all for your great opinions.
starbucks.okay…mcD..okay.. employment of Muslims people? – ask politicians to SOLVE the CRIMINAL problems that might exist from youth people that are unemployed, such as drugs and unsafe sex — you want to let that happen in the same time Israelian troops continue to slam the Holy Land?. that would definitely paralyze the mentality of average youth in Malaysia which is getting worse.
but Intel and IBM?… again, those people who listed this product must have used an Intel product to keep the website alive.. what’s the name of the processor you are using?. Intel Centrino? Intel Core 2 Duo?
and seriously I hate to be dependent on these technologies that made me guilty to use – but have to use this crappy Dell Latitude which has INTEL to LEARN more knowledge to solve this in a good way.
the good way is to really really learn about your stuff in your field and bring something NEW and QUALITY that does not depend on this Zionists. i don’t say boycott is wrong — my point is you just cannot do all of them.
hafiz
on January 13th, 2009
woo..hold up..i think you went off on a tangent here…we’re talking about boycotting and stopping the Zionist from killing Muslims…not the unsolved criminal problems among the unemployed…that is a whole other topic..and that has its own solution..im not gonna say anything about intel or ibm or anything in that category..coz we all know it hard to not depend on them..but for the other things..you gotta do what you gotta do…
Haziq Ruzaini
on January 13th, 2009
yeah, i feel that i’m little bit off the topic.. just a thought and things i found from here..
http://malaysiakini.com/news/96171
you gotta do what you gotta do. < - correct!
lalat
on January 13th, 2009
erm, mmg la byak syarikat amerika n israel, tp bukan sume yg AKTIF dgn aktiviti ZIONIS, boikot je r yg aktif kot, tp xnk boikot pon xpe, ske ati, antara yg aktif, mc d, starbucks , klu rajin cari r kt tenet
Muhaimin Aminuddin
on January 13th, 2009
Salam,
I don’t really mind if people do not want to follow the boycott but being against it?
Yes, we can’t do all of them at once. The fact is that we depend on them too much. However, even crossing a continent starts with the first step, right?
Being a wet blanket to such an effort doesn’t help.
For example, I at least tried to stop buying coca-cola products but is not able to avoid buying the only energy drink choice in FGH like Full Throttle.
Anyways, McDonalds and Coca-cola might be the two companies which we will not die if we boycott anyway. Probably Intel yes, we don’t have a choice. Anyways, the reason for boycotting Intel is just because it invests in Israel and there’s no explicit sponsoring that is actually done. So, it’s not that bad, actually.
lalat
on January 13th, 2009
1 lg nk smbung, erm, jgn r kutuk atau larang dak2 yg nk boikot tu, wlopon diorg xleh boikot sepenuhnye, kurang2 ad sket r usaha diorg, igt x cite time nabi ibrahim saw kene bakar dlu, ad sekor kn burung kecik bw air gune paruh tu, time kecik2 mesti kite ckp, bagusnye burung tu, berusaha, tp xkn time2 besa cmni kite da xleh nk puji org2 cmtu
lankapo
on January 13th, 2009
isu boikot ke tak nak ke tak perlu di perdebatkan, memang kita semua depend dgn US ..aku tak kisah lah PC ke Intel ke..
Apa yang penting skrg ni apa kah sumbangan kita pada rakyat Palestine. Kita ada donate tak, doa kan tk utk diorg..
NAk gaduh pasal isu boikot ke tk boikot ke buang masa.
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jokerbpj
on January 13th, 2009
xleh sume,jgn tgglkn sume..wat mane yg mampu…at least ade usaha…dats all…
yes we can.. boycott !!
on January 13th, 2009
hye.
bonus question for u : are u muslim ?
bonus question number 2 : so, if boycott thing doesn’t help, could u please give some more examples to show our solidarity & to help our brothers and sisters in palestine ? i know u have really superb awesome brainn oneee.
bonus question number 3 : will a human die in 2 days if they’re not drink or eat some of McD or starbucks stuff & the skin will change to something scary if we didn’t spray some Clinique ?!
answer me la k super brain one!
akid
on January 13th, 2009
assalamualaikum.
“Boycotting so called ‘US goods’ is like banging our heads against the wall or slapping our own faces or shooting ourselves in the foot.”
i say, not everyone will have the same mindset as you do. if you feel that boycotting US products will have that much effect on you (slapping your own face, shooting your own foot etc.), then it’s better that you don’t go along with it as Islam doesn’t teach us to do harm on ourselves. =)
for me personally, it won’t do me any harm to do my part in boycotting the products.
now, the main reason many of us are taking this action is because by doing so, we believe that we can generate an impact to stop the support of american companies towards israel. this is done SPECIFICALLY to stop israel’s illegal occupation on Palestinian land.
it’s bad enough that we can’t go there to directly provide help to them, now such simple task of boycotting certain products for a good cause also is raising such post in such blog.
“If you don’t take any of Economics classes, I dare to say just shut up your baseless boycott statement.”
one doesn’t need to attend humanitarian class to be human (assuming there is such class). of course i know nothing about economics, but is that of any relevance when human lives are at stake? and why is it baseless? helping our brothers and sisters to end their suffering seems baseless to you?
Haziq Ruzaini
on January 13th, 2009
again guys, I understand what boycott is. but the main purpose is to realize that we all have to learn from it.
@Muhaimin Aminuddin: might be intentional to choose the wrong word
controversial.
@lalat : aku tak marah orang yang nak boikot. cuma yang cakap tak ada asas je. if you have a point, that’s fine and bagus la.
@lankapo : yup.aku cuma sekadar provide another view of this issue je. bukan nak gaduh.
@jokerbpj : that’s true.agree! 100%
@yes we can.. boycott !! : i am Muslim. pray and pray – sign petition, ask protection from Allah, do what you gotta do — seek more knowledge, i am saying this to myself and readers. look at the event from many perspective, it’s hard to get an unbiased story nowadays.
: will a human die in 2 days if they’re not drink or eat some of McD or starbucks stuff & the skin will change to something scary if we didn’t spray some Clinique ?! <- No. i have not been using their products for a very long time, in fact i have no offense of people boycotting these.
@akid : come on. it’s just an metaphor..or analogy.. or whatever. fyi, i really know they are suffering out there – it’s just baseless because some of the products we are really dependent on them.
Syaf
on January 15th, 2009
Haziq has a point of his own. It does not necessarily means that making a left-sided choice is a bad thing after all. He even supported his argument with good economical perspective. It is not fair for us to ask him — are u a muslim? or will a human die in 2 days if they’re not drink or eat some of McD or starbucks stuff & the skin will change to something scary if we didn’t spray some Clinique ?!
answer me la k super brain one!
This is superlative! We can’t question somebody whether he/she is a muslim by the fact whether or not the individual do what most “muslim” does, in this case, “boycotting”.. He provided ample evidence on his opinion. And i respect that. Even if someone does not believe in boycotting, but that does not generalize that he does nothing to the benefits of the Palestinians. Everybody isn’t the same dude! He was probably thinking of methods on how to overcome this problem in a much more effective way. By boycotting alone isn’t gonna help. It requires more than that to settle with Israel bombarding our brothers. Denying other people’s thought does not do justice at all.
Bonus question – How Muslim are you? By comparative or by believing?
hafiz
on January 16th, 2009
bonus question for u : What are you suggesting then?
sell lacoste? lol..jk..but seriously…what are u suggesting?
Syaf
on January 16th, 2009
Just do whatever you believe in. If you think boycotting is good, do it. If you think it’s not, don’t do it. Islam itu mudah dah tiada paksaan. Sebab tu Islam tu hukum dia syumulliah.
Haziq Ruzaini
on January 16th, 2009
Imam Gyasi McKenzie just gave a friday sermon today.. He said that he does not agreeing much about boycott.
Why?
It instill us with the feelings of hate and blame. You hate products, you blame the people create the war. Islam does not teach us to hate and blame people. like.. “Blame America, Blame Israel, Damn you Jews”. — NO!. We should blame ourselves for not paying attention to our own religion, we should concentrate ourselve This phenomenon of “hating people” is exploding most among us, Muslims. Is that what should we show ourselves as Muslims,, is that what should we promote to other non-Muslims as “Islam is a religion of peace?”
I said it out loud again, focus on what you should do to improve the situation.
I wish I could get the friday sermon video by Imam Gyasi Mckenzie and show to the world another perspective of viewing this issue.
poie
on January 16th, 2009
Syaf, it is not really you can do on what do you believe or what you think of. Dr. Yusuf Al-Qhardawi urges muslim (us) to boycott their (Israel) product and was publicized by media in year 2004. He is the most respectful Islamic scholars nowadays and how can you easily hesitate on what did he said? It clearly shows boycott is the right way. Al-quran told us in this verse (Al-anfal 8:16) that in war we cannot stand behind our enemies and in the other situation, means that we as civilians cannot support them in any angle (economic or idealistic). It is true, some people tend to lose their job caused by boycotting but can you think logically, would it be better whether losing job rather than losing our Muslim brothers life. They can find find other jobs, I’allah if there are rezeki from Allah for them. Losing life, no one can replace it, and no more people in Palestine to stand and fight for our first qiblah which is Palestine and holy land of Muslim that also stated in Al-quran in verse (Al-Maidah 5:21). Please support on the right side not only judge and think that you can do on what are you thinking. Show your support not only through dua’ because you don’t really know whether your dua’ will be accepted by Allah. Please, do so. Boycot is the last way to help people in Palestine. Peace be upon you. AllahuAkbar.
Haziq Ruzaini
on January 17th, 2009
Translation for Al-Maidah 5:21
YUSUFALI: “O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”
PICKTHAL: O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers:
SHAKIR: O my people! enter the holy land which Allah has prescribed for you and turn not on your backs for then you will turn back losers.
Translation for Al-Anfal 8:16
YUSUFALI: If any do turn his back to them on such a day – unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!
PICKTHAL: Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless manoeuvring for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.
SHAKIR: And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day– unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company– then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah’s wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be.
Source: USC
Syaf
on January 17th, 2009
poie, i think you mistook my statement slightly off the track. By clarifying that its your decision to make does not means *ikut hati membuta tuli* . It means, iktikad, knowledge and akal that you must follow. Even if Dr. Yusuf Al-Qhardawi or whoever he is being respected by a mass amount of people, it does not guarantee his opinion fits others. Heck, if all muslim would be the same, what kind of world would it be one day? Again, I am not against boycotting, I’m thoroughly alright with them, in fact, i support people who implement that with an aim, to help people in need, regardless of the choice they are making. But does it hurt to harness another alternative? Allah made people differently, Muslim who drinks, or who commit various crimes, but that does not necessarily guarantee that these people have no benefits whatsoever to the people of their faith. There is a story of a sahabat, who found a prostitute by the road, and helped a thirsty dog by the roadside to quench its afternoon thirst, and she was awarded paradise for he doing. Or, a group of sinful muslims who look at things in the most peculiar way ever thought, and soon after, that these people established companies that employ millions of our brothers across the border. That is the beauty of Islam, because in combines the fitrah, knowledge, akal and iktikad. If i think boycott is a the best way, of course, i’ll do so. But there is something in my mind and heart, that says it is not the best way possible. So, i’ll stick to it. Peace be upon you too, ameen
poie
on January 17th, 2009
(Syaf) If that so, what can you suggest to me as a Muslim to help our brothers (Palestinian) as maximum as I can besides dua’, protest, and infak (sadaqah)? Are you a student or work people?
Syaf
on January 18th, 2009
Again, a question is being asked again and again, despite the fact that the moderator had spent so much time convincing people over it. Please refer back to all our previous messages. The answers lie in there.
. Please be upon you
amer
on January 19th, 2009
Muslim world wide has the power to cripple world economy by boycott and its proven in such Mars Bar issue. Do believe in boycott. yeah we cant boycott all of it.
All we need is planned boycott not just drastic boycott.
Haziq Ruzaini
on February 16th, 2009
Proven? Nah.. People still eating Mars Bar til now right here in the states. Not me.
If we want to boycott, we have to produce our own brand under the Muslim world (as like the cola produced in Middle East).
eman
on March 2nd, 2009
salamalayk..
we must boycott while producing our on products.. of course we will.. we will and we must have to produce our own Muslim products..actually we already have HPA company in malaysia.. it is a good start for a Muslim brand.. here in Egypt also a lot of alternatives products available.. but we should bear in mind that to have totally completely all Muslim brands is not merely with a blink of eyes yet it is not impossible! everything will take time.. and to be at the top, the highest, the strongest one, we need to begin from the base..most important is that you, we and us have to believe that oneday we will be on top of those US n Israel. thats the fact. it’s already said and written that eventually they’ll lose. and I believe that. boycott as much as you can. Islam itu sememangnya mudah. tetapi jgnlah kita mengambil mudah dan mempermudahkannya. bersabarlah dan yakinlah bahawa ini semua hanyalah gerhana yg sementara..bukannya tenggelamnya matahari.. about the employees, as said above by hafiz, poie, akid, muhaimin, rezeki itu hanya milik Allah. Jika kamu benar2 yakin, Allah xkan sia2kan hamba2Nya kerana tidaklah Dia menciptakan mereka semua dgn sia2. I know how it feels for some people who used to be with the boycott products. it is hard for them to get rid of those things. sbb fikiran dan hati kita telah lama diresapi dan disirami dgn ideology2 Yahudi dan barat yg mana beribu2 tahun lamanya telah dirancang oleh mereka. tetapi, anda, kamu dan awk semua perlu yakin! ini semua ujian dariNya. kerna setiap manusia itu pasti diuji! Bezanya, mahu atau tidak, berjaya atau tidak kita menghadapinya.. dan itu bergantung kpd diri kita. hnya kamu saja yg bisa merubah hidupmu..
RabbunaYusahhil..
Haziq Ruzaini
on March 2nd, 2009
salam. thank you for your view and opinion about this matter. what do you say is all true.
think about the muslim people in non-muslim country yang terpaksa guna those brands to live, that doesn’t have muslims brand over there.
employees, memang betul diorang cakap mcm tu, but think about the consequences of not having a job especially anak2 muda yang sekarang ni bergantung pada kerja tu + . timbul pulak isu qada’ dan qadar. “oh, tawakkal jela, aku buat mcm ni utk orang2 islam kat palestin” < - are they gonna keep saying that?. senang lah kau cakap rezeki, ada fikirkan ke kerajaan nak hire mereka in their government company dalam keadaan politik macam ni?. unless kalau provided that you have alternative job, boleh la buat. unless if we have our own products yang sememangnya berkualiti tahapnya as barang2 boikot tu, boleh la kita boikot.
i always believe that we will be on top of those US n Israel stuffs. but boycott isn’t the way to go. sebabnya akan timbul perasaan benci, timbul perasaan nak kutuk rejim Zionis tu. apa yang mereka akan tengok tentang Islam, yang nak masuk Islam tu especially. Islam is the religion of kindness, not a religion of hate. Islam does not teach us to hate! macam mana nak tarik orang kafir masuk Islam macam tu kalau diajar pula boikot dan membenci orang yang bukan Islam. haram la dia nak masuk..
Hanya berjihad dengan jalan yang benar kalau ditindas.
Kalau nak boikot, kenapa la barang tu hari2 bertan2 sampai Pelabuhan Klang + Pelabuhan Penang + dok sibok gi protes depan US embassy. Kerajaan tu yang ada control export+import, tapi tak boleh sebab apa, dikatakan US tu “major partner” Malaysia. ah sudah. fikirkan juga kapal terbang buatan sape yang korang naik pergi menuntut ilmu.
bagi aku lagi mudah kalau kita gunakan ilmu2 yang kita ada ni expand kan product buatan Islam, tak tau la kalau eman pernah dengar anything about muslim cola kat arab saudi atau tak. bila dah ada benda2 mcm tu, kita lost dependency on barang2 buatan yang menindas umat kita di Palestin tu.
eman
on March 2nd, 2009
thanks..
i wonder..do they really will have a thought like that..i mean non-muslim people will think that we do boycott means Islam teach us to hate the non-muslim people..didnt they see what is the main reason why we are doing this..didnt they see that our brothers and sisters have been years under oppression..really..i wonder..
honestly i dont have the answers for the other questions..we need to do more research about this thing..i mean both of us..and all of us..
ohh by the way, kt egypt dh ade coke yg Muslim pny.. taste not much differ from the coca cola..also, HPA kt malaysia pn ada jual Radix Cola klo xsilap sy..
anyhow, thanks for sharing..cos sharing is caring..as they said..
wassalam..
Haziq Ruzaini
on March 7th, 2009
yup, they do. my american colleagues even discuss this with me about this boycott things that they heard from other muslim people yang tinggal in the city.
bila ditanya kenapa mereka boycott, they would discuss about it tapi eventually muslim2 tu sendiri yang marah + maki hamun orang US tu.
they even maki hamun US including those people yang tak tahu apa2 about the oppression. of course the media yang jadi main distraction untuk halang
dorang daripada tahu benda-benda mcm ni.
that’s the problem. we here in US as muslims, mmg kena sampaikan the truth to all non-muslims people, have to clarify what Islam is all about sebab mereka sememangnya
jahil dan ignorant tentang Islam. only way to get through is the similarity yang kita ada between us as muslims and them, jews and christians. kita pun kena selidik jugak
agama dorang macam mana, then baru boleh tackle the problem in an easier way.
i really appreciate your opinion and that’s help a lot in defining the problem that we as muslims are having right now.